Wednesday, February 13, 2013

All Things MJ with Jessica LeRoux - February 13, 2013

Hey Now,

Today 2-13-13 we will have a very important meeting that will have a serious impact on the ability of infused products to be a viable business going forward. Your support is sincerely needed at this time. If you are able to attend this meeting and testify this afternoon that would be fantastic, if you cannot attend you can still help by making phone calls or sending emails. 

Consumer Safety/Social Issues Working Group Meetings   

 Wednesday, February 13, 2013
2:30 p.m. to 5:30 p.m.
(note extended meeting time)
Location: Colorado Department of Revenue
Medical Marijuana Enforcement Division Conference Room
455 Sherman Street, Suite 390
Denver, Colorado 80203

There has been consideration among group members for a THC quantity limit in food products   so that no one product (e.g., cookie, candy piece) may contain more than 20 mg of THC. Furrthermore, no food package may contain more than 100 mg of THC (or 5 servings).
The rationale for this consideration includes limiting risk of intoxication in food products where systemic effects typically take longer to occur. The “average” dose for a non-daily user was considered to be 15-25 mg so 20 mg was chosen as the standard dose per food item. We understand that frequent users may want to have more than 20 mg per dose and allowed for up to five doses (100 mg) per food package.
also address these so called safety sacks with a base cost of $5-$7 according to the only resources we can find online... 

please use this opportunity to point out that children are not allowed into these shops ever, so restricting the packaging and labels to a monotone opaque package is not in the spirit of alcohol regulation where you can  find all sorts of colorful and pandering imagery... 
we need to stand in solidarity right now folks... and forward this to the patients that support us, especially the ones with serious medical need for stronger products. If all our retail partners the MMCs all are going to make the change to recreational hybrid model, will all edibles be defacto required to dumb our existing products down? Will legit patients be forced to eat handfuls of sugary snacks or high calorie nuts to obtain relief? This is lunacy, because this will surely be a boon to the edibles black market which is already thriving with people coming onto my facebook page to advertise their home made goods for "sale" in some interpretive way... not to mention the dick bag who makes rempen is on the panel proposing this "solution" for us, he wants to make our products less viable, but does not want a warning label on solvents though; when it is well known that consumers are buying those vape cartridges and opening them up at home and making edibles with them, or worse swilling them down all at once in a cocktail... this proposal will never limit products made in peoples homes nor prevent them from legally sharing those products with anybody over 21, all residential production will be done with out a inspected commercial kitchen, with out tamperproof packing, without warning labels, with out any taxes or fee revenue to assist with enforcement. People will be using dangerous chemical solvents in their apartments potentially.. This will put all the honest operators out of business and we will simply see the labs re-positioning themselves as the lowest # tester as opposed to the past 2 years where labs have arbitrarily skewed their test results higher and higher... as of this time there still is no standard proposed to regulate and stabilize lab results, so these new packaging standards will be arbitrary and we will simply find a lab whose financial needs make them incentivized to provide my existing products a 20mg test result... The state has neither the resources nor the interest nor the technology to regulate the labs and ensure results will be uniform across multiple labs statewide. 
we need owners and patients to come testify that the current legal market does not have a single option offered in this 20Mg/100Mg or less format offered to patients for sale. This proposal has no science to back the number of 20Mg up as an "average" dosage. and if we are going to limit these things in a 3.2 beer manor then we are entitled to the same access to the free market as 3.2 beer ie grocery store & 7-11 sales 24-7 exactly the same as 3.2 beer gets (and that we will fight for that access if this limit is pushed on us)... and that this completely rewards the unregulated and unsupervised residential production of edibles in homes where children may or may not be present. Point out that A-64 allows adults to share their cannabis, including edibles and makes options like a wedding cake or birthday cake available to anybody over 21 to share responsibly. That is in the freeking constitution, as is the classification of edibles as a business license option; so for this task force workgroup to eliminate a portion of the constitutionally mandated industry through punitive measures is not going to be a good use of the state's limited legal resources, since these limits will not stand up to a challenge in court.

thanks for your help! 

another meeting this morning which I could potentially use a ride to during my carless time...  

Tax funding work group 
Wednesday, February 13, 2013
11:00 a.m. to 1:00 p.m.
 Location: Ralph L. Carr Colorado Judicial Center
1300 Broadway, First Floor 
Denver, Colorado 80203

Tomorrow... DUID hearing 
1:30 p.m.
Room 0112 Judiciary 
Thursday Feb 14,2013
HB13-1114 Waller and Fields--Inferences For Marijuana And Driving Offenses
NO Tolerance for No Tolerance! Kill the DUID BILL HB13-1114, as there is No Science to determine impairment!
Meanwhile, PLEASE
email Colorado House Judiciary members:,,,

take time to cite that there is no new science to push a 5 nanogram limit which has failed 3 times on the lack of science already. Marijuana does NOT impair like alcohol, and the metrics this bill uses does not even measure how impaired someone is. 

my thoughts on this bill being "livable" and not a liability for taxpayers in costly court battles, are that:

#1 need to codify that any blood draw will be done exclusively by a trained medical professional in a safe sanitary medical setting no matter where the incident occurs statewide... *NO roadside police administered blood draws by the trunk of the cruiser in a state that has an average temp of freezing or below from dusk till dawn for at least 8 out of 12 months... no cops with needles sticking nervous people in the dark in remote places too far from medical attention that may become necessary if the job is botched... average age of cops is too young for this responsibility, much less the educational requirements for a qualified medical worker are much much higher than for police officers, and rightly so. 

#2 science is still not proven on 5 nanogram limit so we need a rebutable defense based on real acceptance that more study is needed. 

#3 science is not conclusive on 5 nanogram = impairment, need simple road side impairment test that respects the medical conditions of persons with MS, Vertigo, and other degenerative neurological conditions.  these people have enough medical problems without subjecting them to an intervenal puncture or worse. 

#4 State Must give a reasonable return of data, no 15-18 month back up of blood tests delaying proof needed to exonerate innocent parties. If there are extra tax payer costs associated with the state hiring the needed blood experts they should be projected and honestly discussed. 

#5 State cannot force persons to have their blood drawn against their will (many will object on religious grounds and health concerns) nor use refusal as means to deny drivers license, Burden should be on prosecutor to PROVE impairment before blood is drawn. That officer's testimony regarding the impairment witnessed should be proof enough, no blood needed...  and if a party wants a test to prove their innocence in a case where the officer may simply have an ax to grind, they may request such test be administered and promptly evaluated and returned to exonerate the innocent. 

while this hearing is happening there will also be a regulatory workgroup meeting right down the street, so many of us will be popping back & forth... 

Regulatory Framework Working Group Meetings

 Thursday, February 14, 2013
2:00 p.m. to 5:00 p.m. 

Location: Colorado Department of Revenue
Medical Marijuana Enforcement Division Conference Room
455 Sherman Street, Suite 390
Denver, Colorado 80203

Also there is a criminal workgroup meeting in the am on Thursday... making for a hellishly long day! 

Criminal Law Issues Working Group Meetings


Thursday, February 14, 2013 
9:00 a.m. to Noon

Location: Colorado State Patrol Academy
Building 100, Carrel Hall
15055 South Golden Road
Golden, Colorado 80401

Please make an effort to attend these meetings and participate in the future of legal cannabis... after all the bigger job didnt end at the election, it began there! 

I hope to see you at one of these events!

Jessica LeRoux
Twirling Hippy Confections
2145 W evans Denver CO
303 922 3661 


  1. This business they just announced about wanting to ban "alcohol infusions", is this a ban on alcohol-type extractions such as "Green Dragon"? Or against, say, beer with THC added..?